newbie install of Ubuntu 5.10, ati, dualview, sata, pata, grub

This is a post I made to on Feb of 2006 following an extensive project to get Ubuntu working with two monitors and extended desktop, something that windows does very easily on this same hardware.  Ubuntu is much more advanced now.
newbie install of 5.10, ati, dualview, sata, pata, grub

Ok this post is for all the other newbies out there, to help spread a LITTLE knowledge.

First of all, I’m not a total linux newbie, I have installed redhat 5.10, mandrake 9, 10, etc, but never installed a distro that had everything I wanted, etc. I always go back to windows real quick.

I have:

AthlonXP 2500
ATI Radeon 9600 AGP dual head
Nforce2 motherboard
SATA 37gig 10kRPM
PATA 120 gig

This time, I was very determined to switch from windows completely. Here is a list of my steps: (1,2,3 etc are main steps, a,b,c are sub-steps or additional info)

1) research. I found that ubuntu was the best distro, followed by (IMO) mepis.
2) More reseach. I required the following things to WORK:

a. ATI dualview for video editing
b. Firewire
c. Easy install of non-typical apps such as cinelerra
d. DV video capture

3) Get the live CD’s – ubuntu, kubuntu, mepis

a. ubuntu community is the BEST

4) Test out live cds on multiple computers and install ubuntu on a test system

a. Firewire works
b. Usb works
c. Installation of anything and everything is easy
d. Vid cap works

5) Boot to ubuntu, partition for dual boot and install
6) Ubuntu installed, but “failed to load operating system” on boot

a. I installed to a SATA, and have a PATA drive for data.
b. Grub was installed incorrectly

7) Give up on dual boot, Reinstall ubuntu, boot to mepis cd, mess with grub
8- Mess with grub a lot, finally install mepis to see if it works

a. Mepis installs

9) Boot to grub with gui, which sends me to another grub and dead ends

a. Mess with mepis and grub some more

10) Do what I should have done first – DISCONNECT THE PATA

a. I’ve seen comments that it’s best to install grub to a SATA with no PATA drives installed if you aren’t using the PATA for booting

11) Install MEPIS and it works

a. Dumb, I was setting out to use UBUNTU

12) Reconnect PATA and it still works
13) Try to get fglrx and dualview working
14) Pound my head against the wall with editing config files
15) Pound my head against the wall with x server crashes
16) Remove nvidia drivers (??!!??) and try to get the ALSO INSTALLED ati drivers working
17) Give up on MEPIS and install ubuntu

a. I’d already found wiki’s and howto’s for installing ATI drivers on UBUNTU
b. Ubuntu was what I wanted to use anyway, had an uneasy feeling about mepis
c. mepis has a VERY GOOD Live CD

18- Disconnect PATA and install UBUNTU
19) It works
20) Follow steps in ubuntu wiki about installing ATI drivers
21) Install ubuntu standard fglrx
22) No ATI setup interface found
23) Decided to NOT edit another x config file ever again
24) Install ATI provided binary drivers per instructions found in wiki

a. Installed from the repository, not really from ati

25) ATI config interface found, but dualview select does not stick
26) Give in and run fglrxconfig – one last time

a. Yes, the driver is there but xorg.conf is apparently the same??

27) Once you install the latest ATI binary drivers from the special repository, the fglrxconfig is NEW and apparently WORKS.

a. Saw an old tip about using fglrx to generate the good SECTIONS of xorg.conf to paste into your original, NON CRASHING xorg.conf
b. Did not do that.

28- Restart x server (ctrl-alt-backspace)
29) Adjust desktop resolution to twice the width and same height
30) Enjoy dualview.

a. Praise God

31) Follow steps for installing cinelerra

a. Alien is required because cinelerra is provided with RPM

This took me from 8:30 pm to 2:00 AM. Painful, but it’s done and now I know how. Now you do too.

Last edited by mediaservant; February 1st, 2006 at 08:19 AM..

What causes spyware?

What causes computers to get infected with viruses?

The common term now-days is “malware” which is short for “malicious software”. Virus, Trojan, Spyware, Adware, etc, are all variants of the same theme. It is a program that is running on your computer that you didn’t put there, that is up to no good.

How do they get there?

If a computer was installed with windows, turned off, and put in a closet on a shelf it would remain uninfected forever.

If it is turned on but not connected to the internet, your chances are much better, however if someone puts in a memory stick (or, floppy disk if you’re in the 1990’s) it can get infected if the memory stick or floppy disk is infected with a virus.

However, many viruses today are spread over the internet. If a computer is connected directly to the internet with nothing in between it and the internet, many people will attempt to scan your computer’s ports. An analogy of this is a burglar walking around your house jiggling all your doorknobs.

Most computers today are running Windows, and many are not patched and updated. Another analogy for this would be that the locks on your house are found to be easy to pick, and your home builder sends you updated locks for your doors, but you don’t take them out of the box and install them on your doors. So, burglars are able to easily break into the houses that don’t have the updated locks. In the same way, an unpatched computer can have security faults that are widely known, allowing people to exploit your computer with ease.

It is said that if someone connects to the internet a computer with windows XP on it that is totally unpatched with the version of windows XP that was originally released years ago, it will be compromised and broken into within 5 to 10 minutes.

What Causes:


Malware is any software that runs on your computer that intends to harm you, inconvenience you, steal your information, or spy on you. Viruses, Spyware, Adware, Trojans and Keyloggers are all forms of Malware.

The following has been linked to malware infections:

Programs such as:

Limewire and Frostwire or other peer-to-peer file sharing programs
Weather tracking programs
Screensaver and Desktop Background programs
Bundled software like
Fake Antivirus downloads like Personal Antivirus and Antivirus 360

Websites such as:

Facebook, Myspace, Pornography sites, Illegal software download sites, Illegal music downloading sites, or any website that has been hacked and compromised (drive-by downloads)

Mistakes such as:

Never updating Windows from Windows Update
Not running an Antivirus program, or not updating it
Using a USB memory stick that has been infected with malware
Running an unexpected attachment that is sent to you via email or instant messaging programs

The best defense against malware is an educated user.

Malware does not just make your computer slow.

You need to ask yourself this: What is that malware doing that is making my computer slow? It must be doing something because my computer is working hard!

It is! Years ago, Computer Viruses were made by bored computer programmers with a mean streak. They were only intended to hurt you and damage your computer.

Today, Virues, Trojans and Malware in general is written and deployed for one purpose and one purpose only: MONEY.

Malware can and does do the following:

Watch where you go on the internet so someone can sell you something

Watch you do your online shopping so someone can steal your credit card information and / or your identity

Lie to you that your computer is infected with viruses so someone can sell you a fake antivirus and take your money

Install programs on your computer without you knowing it so someone can use your computer to send spam to millions of people around the world

Install programs on your computer without you knowing it so someone can use your computer to attack websites for ransom or bounty

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